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Stage 28 – Living Garden, Lost City, Sand Dunes

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Last Updated on: 22nd May 2013
– Base on the refined estimation of Gouda to I-essence, the recommended starting gouda had been changed ( Check Step 1)

This new area was first released on 14th Nov 2012

Guide Navigation

Prerequisites

  • Completed Stage 27
  • Rebuilt Cartographer and obtained Living Garden Key

Required Rank

 Baron/Baroness

Area Introductions

The main goal of this area is to collect essences for crafting all the new traps and bases.

There are two dimensions for each of the area, one is the reality and the other is twisted. (Details will be explained later on)

Area Progression Summary

This is made to help newcomers of Living Garden to get a general idea of what Living Garden is all about. Another purpose is to help hunters track easily what cheese and what petals/herbs they need to arm/collect at particular areas. (More in-depth step-by-step guide in later section)

LG Summary by DexAkio

Walkthrough Structure

Each area has two sections:

Advancement Goal

  • Advance through the areas by collecting different special cheese and catch area mice along the way to finally get a Living Chest

Essences Collection

  • This path consist of playing “Mini Games” to collect Essences

The goals of the two sections are the same (for some areas you need to do both sections at the same time), to collect enough high end Essences to craft the 3 powerful trap and the new base.

Note: some mini game is not worth doing while some are highly profitable, recommendations on which to skip and which to do are included in the guide along the way.

Step 1 – Living Garden


Power Type: Hydro
Recommended Trap: Oasis Water Node Trap
Recommended Cheese: Gouda/SB+
Loot: Dewthief Petal
Mini Game: “Pour”
Hidden Area: Twisted Garden
Dimension: Reality

  • Advancement Goals
    • It’s known to best hunt in large packs of gouda, so that you can try to collect  1 I-essences on first run or 3 I-essences in one run, the common packs to collect Dewthief Petals are as follow:
      • 550 Gouda (0.41|1.34)
      • 1,200 Gouda (1.25|2.94)
      • 3,000 Gouda (3.23|7.69)
      • 10,000 Gouda (11.19|25.79)
      • Note:
        – Recommended going for 1.2k gouda (if not using magic essences for cheese convertion) or 550 gouda (if using magic essences for cheese convertion all the way) to get your Phantasmic Oasis Trap on your first run. 
        –  Format: (a|b)
        a = number of I-essences at the end without SB+ cheese conversion all the way
        b = number of I-essences at the end with SB+ cheese conversion all the way
        Spreadsheet calculationsLiving Garden I-Essences Calculator
    • Convert the Dewthief Petals to Dewthief Camembert in the Cheese Shoppe and use them to hunt in Lost City and Sand Dune ( more explained in step 2)
    • The watering mini game is not recommended for this stage, you can just focus on getting Dewthief Petals.
    • After using up all gouda you can move to step 2
  • Essences Collection – Watering Mini Game
    • As you were hunting for Dewthief Petal you would be also getting Aleth Essences. Keep doing the same to gather Aleth
    • Arm the Sponge Charms purchased from the charm store in Living Garden (1 Aleth Essence for 1 Sponge Charm). Upon catching a mouse with the charm, you are guaranteed to have 1 dewdrop as loot. The dewdrops can be activated by “Pour” to attract Thristy Mouse.  Thirsty Mouse always drop 1 B-Essence and 1 C-Essence.
    • Pour System
      • For first 10 dewdrops before activating “Pour” you have 1 Thirsty Mouse Attractions per dewdrop (e.g. if you have 8 dewdrips when you activate “Pour” you can attract Thirsty Mice for 8 times.)
      • Starting from the 11th dewdrops you will get 2 additional Thirsty Mouse Attractions per dewdrop (e.g if you have 11 dewdrips when you activate “Pour” you can attract Thirsty Mice for 12 times).
      • At 20 dewdrops your tank will be full, rewards you with  a total of 35 Thirsty Mouse Attractions. 
      • The following is a table to help you understand better.
      • The HUD will instruct hunters to disarm Sponge Charms when Pour is active
      • Thirsty Mice are not 100% attracted while Pour is active
    • Efficiency Tips
      • Always collect 20 A-Essence before purchasing the Sponge Charms
      • Collect 20 dewdrops before activating the “Pour” to obtain a 35 Thirsty Mouse Attractions (35 turns to catch Thirsty Mouse).
      • The best way to obtain B and C- Essences is catching Thirsty Mouse. Upgrading from A -> B -> will be less efficient.
    • The essences are required to craft higher essences and different combinations of these essences are required to trap the new 3 power traps. (Check your Book of Living Garden Recipes)

Step 2 – Lost City and Sand Dunes


Lost City
Power Type: Arcane
Recommended Trap:  ACRONYM
Required Cheese: Dewthief Camembert (Living Garden)
Loot: Dreamfluff Herbs
Mini Game: Purification
Hidden Area: Cursed City
Dimension: Reality


Sand Dunes
Power Type: Shadow
Recommended Trap:  Reaper’s Perch
Required Cheese: Dewthief Camembert (Living Garden)
Loot: Duskshade Petal
Mini Game: Grubling Stampedes
Hidden Area: Sand Crypts
Dimension: Reality

  • Advancement Goals
    • For these 2 areas it’s recommended to do both the mini games while doing the advancement goals, please read the Essences Collection section below for details.
    • Use half the Dewthief Camembers to hunt in Lost City to collect Dreamfluff herbs and the other half in Sand Dune to collect Duskshade petals. (try to balance the amount of herbs and petals)
    • Use both Dreamfluff herbs and Duskshade petals to exchange Duskshade Camembert cheese in any of the three areas’ cheese shoppe
    • Now move back to Living Garden (Step 3)
  • Essences Collection
    • Lost City – Cursed! Mini Game
      • This area is cursed and thereby you can’t attract the Essence Collector mouse.
      • Go to the charm store and get 2 Searcher Charm ( with 2 Aleth Essences) at a time and buy more as you go, until catch mice to break the curse with the charm and purify the city.
      • Curse is lifted, unequip the Searcher Charms
      • Mice you catch here will drop either Aleth, Ber, and Cynd Essences or a combination of the three
      • If you encounter or caught a cursed mouse while the curse is lifted, the city will return back to be cursed, then you will need to re-arm your Searcher Charm to re-lift the curse
    • Sand Dunes – Grubling Stampedes Mini Game
      • Arm your Dewthief Camembert, while you hunt you have a chance to set off a Grubling Stampede. The HUD will notify you when you had set off a Stampede then arm 15 Grumbling Chow Charms (Arm the charm if and only if the HUD says “Grubling Stampede Alert”) 
      • You have 15 hunts to attract and catch the Grubling mice during a stampede. Make sure you have enough charms before starting a Stampede.
      • Mice here drops either of Aleth, Ber, and Cynd Essence or combinations of the three. Grubling mice will drop 1 Cynd Essence. (These can be treated as retock of essences for you to get charms here, this mini game is profitable so it’s recommend to be done along with the advancement goals)

Step 3 – Living Garden Revisited

  • Advancement Goal
    • Use Duskshade Camembert cheese to hunt in the Living Garden for Carmine the Apothecary Mouse
    • Upon catching the Carmine the Apothecary you will be teleported to the Twisted Gardens. (Now you have entered the twisted dimension!)
    • Now advance to Step 4

Step 4 – Twisted Garden


Power Type: Hydro
Recommended Trap: Oasis Water Node Trap
Required Cheese: Duskshade Camembert Cheese
Loot: Graveblossom Petal
Mini Game: Watering (with dual tanks)
Area Mouse: Twisted Carmine (Requires  Lunaira Camembert)
Dimension: Twisted

  • Advancement Goal
    • Mini game in this area will help improve your catch rate for Twisted Carmine at the step 6. As you are pouring during step 6 while catching the Twisted Carmine, you will gain a great bonus of luck and power. Therefore filling up both tanks to full in this step is recommended! Read the Essences Collection section for more extensive guidelines. (It’s not recommended to pour at this point, pour only in step 6)
    • Hunt in the Twisted Garden with Duskshade Camember to collect Graveblossom Petals.
    • Now you should see that Lost City and Sand Dune will be “twisted” to Cursed City and Sand Crypts
    • After using up all your Duskshade Camember go to step 5

IMPORTANT: If you hunt in Twisted Garden with a cheese other than Duskshade Camembert you will be kicked back to the Reality dimension (Living Garden). To re-enter go back to step 3 .

  • Essences Collection
    • This system is similar to Living Garden, however now it’s dual tank and with bonus stats while pouring.
      • Poured Red Dewdrops give you 5% Power Bonus
      • Poured Yellow Dewdrops give you +5 Luck
      • Both can be poured at the same time
      • Using Lunaria while poured will not attract the Dehydrated mouse, therefore it’s great while used while catching Twisted Carmine.
    • With the system explained, to start refilling, first you need to convert Ber Essences in the charm store into 10 Red Sponge and 10 Yellow Sponge charms.
    • Collect both Red Dewdrops and Yellow Dewdrops  with the charms armed. The total hunts indicated on the HUD is the total of dewdrops from both Red and Yellow tanks. The dewdrops has same bonus system as Living Garden. Filling up both tank is the best way to go.

Step 5 – Cursed City and Sand Crypts


Cursed City
Power Type: Arcane
Recommended Trap:  ACRONYM
Required Cheese: Graveblossom Camembert
Loot: Plumpearl Herbs
Mini Game: Purification 2
Area Mouse: Essence Guardian
Dimension: Twisted


Sand Crypts
Power Type: Shadow
Recommended Trap:  Reaper’s Perch
Required Cheese: Graveblossom Camembert
Loot: Lunaria Petal
Mini Game: Grubling Stampedes 2
Hidden Area: Sand Crypt
Area Mouse: King Grub
Dimension: Twisted

  • Advancement Goal
    • The mini game in Curse City is worth doing, while the Sand Crypts is only worth doing if you have Reaper’s Perch. It is recommended to repel the curses in Curse City before starting the advancement goal in that area. (Check the Essences Collection section below for more in-depth guide)
    • With all the Graveblossom Petals from Twisted Garden, again exchange it for Graveblossom Camembert cheese in the cheese shoppe.
    • Use half of the Graveblossom Camembert in Cursed City to collect Plumpear Herbs and the other half in Sand Crypts to collect Lunaria Petals. (Again try to balance both herbs and petals)
    • Using the Pumpear Herbs and Lunaria Petals to exchange for Lunaira  Camembert in Cheese Shoppe then move to step 6

IMPORTANT: Make sure you are using the Graveblossom Camembert in both areas, as this is the twisted dimension, if you used other cheese you will be teletported back to the Reality dimension  If that happened, go to Step 3 to re-enter through Living Garden, and travel back to either Cursed City or Sand Crypt.

  • Essences Collection
    • Cursed City
      • Here there are 3 new charms to free the curse in Cursed City, which are Bravery Charm, Clarity Charm, and Shine Charm
      • This time you need to catch 1 mouse using each of the charms to repel the curse in this area
      • If you caught the cursed mouse the curse will return and you have to repel it again
    • Sand Crypts
      • Here now you can catch the King Grub mice
      • To catch the King Grub mice, you will need to use Grub Salt Charms to weaken the mice then arm Grub Scent Charm to attract it. (King Grub is only attracted when Grub Scent Charm is armed)
      • It is recommended to use 25 Grub Salt Charms  to weaken the King Grub
      • The King Grub will drop higher Essences (Up to E essences)

Step 6 – Twisted Garden Revisited

  • Advancement Goals
    • Before you start hunting here, start the pouring to get  your bonuses (Note, the pouring progress won’t be affected if you move out of this area and come back later. So don’t worry if you are not able to finish all the “hunts” before the cheese run out, just come back later)
    • Use Lunaira Camembert and catch the Twisted Carmine
      • Twisted Carmine wroth 85,250 points and 6525 gold
      • it also drop 1 Living Chest upon catching it and the chest has chance of giving the following:
        • 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil (100%) 
        • 1 Gur Essence (100%)
        • Dewtheif Petal (50%)
        • Fel Essences (24.9%)
        • Dreamfluff Herbs (14.8%)
        • Lunaria Petal (4.6%)
        • Dewtheif Camembert (15%)
        • Duskshade Camembert (10.2%)
        • Lunaria Camembert (2%)
        • Dusksahde Petal (15.2%)
        • Graveblossom Camembert (9.6%)
        • Plumepearl Herbs (4.2%)
      • * Check HornTracker for more detail on Living Garden Chest Loots
    • Now you just have to repeat step 1-6 cycle untill you collect enough essences to craft all the new trap blueprints. (The total amount is listed in the next section and the recipe and the order to craft the traps are in later section) You will need to cycle more if you going to do the challenge stage, catching the 3 bosses!

End Goal

Your end goal is to collect the following amount of Essences:

  • 1 Est
  • 2 Fel
  • 1 Gur
  • 3 Icuri

Note: Since the release of the Rift Base, Soiled Base is no longer recommended, therefore the required essences were changed since 14th May 2013 to take out the amount needed for Soiled Base.

All these Essences are required to craft all the new traps, description of the recipes can be found in the Trap Crafting Order section below.

You may use Spheniscine’s Living Garden Essence Wizard to keep track if you had enough low tier essences to craft your way up to the required essences.

Trap Crafting Order

Having a smart order of crafting all the traps will greatly speed up the progress in this area. Following the recommended order below to craft the traps and reasons for such ordering is explained too.

1. Phantasmic Oasis Trap (Hydro)

  • Reason to priorities this trap to craft first is because Hydro trap is involved in collecting Dewtheif Petal, Graveblossom Petal and more importantly catching the Twisted Carmine! With this trap crafted your amount of petals will build up way faster as well as having way better catching rate for Twisted Carmine. 
  • Crafting Recipe
    • 1 Phantasmic Oasis Trap Blueprint = Est + Fel + Icuri Essences
    • 1 Oasis Water Node Trap Parts
    • 3 Phantasmic Essence

2. Grand Arcanum Trap (Arcane)
Note:
this is assuming you have Reaper’s Perch, if not craft Clockwork Portal first

  • This is suggest to be crafted before Clockwork Portal is because Reaper’s Perch will do just fine for Sand Dune and Sand Crypt. However Lost City and Cursed City with ACRONYM is not giving pleasant catches. So having this upgrade first is much more desirable. 
  • Crafting Recipe
    • 1 Grand Arcanum Trap Blueprints = 1 Gur + 1 Icuri Essences
    • 1 A.C.R.O.N.Y.M Parts
    • 1 Arcane Crystal
    • 40 Tiny Platinum Bars

3. Clockwork Portal (Shadow Trap)

  • The reason to have this crafted last is pretty much explained in the reason why crafting Grand Arcanum Trap second
  • Crafting Recipe
    • 1 Clockwork Portal Trap Blueprints = 1 Icuri Essence + 1 Fel Essence
    • 1 Clock Parts
    • 8 Umbral Capacitors

Advance Challenge Stage – Ultimate Mice

This stage is relatively hard and expensive, it is highly recommended that you craft all the trap/base upgrades before attempting this challenge. 

The challenge is to catch the 3 ultimate mice (3 bosses):

Shattered Carmine

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Dark Magi

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King Scarab

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All these mice requires a Shattering Charm to attract. To craft the Shattering Charm follow the following recipe: (Each Charm requires 1,150,000 gold, not including the cost of Prisms crafting Icuri Essence)

Epic Orb 1
Charmbits** 1,000
Icuri Essence 1
Aromatic Oil** 1

*This recipe makes 1 Shattering Charm
** Charmbits and Aromatic Oil are both available in General Store in all 3 areas
*** Shattering Charms are only consumed when one of the ultimate mice are caught

Challenge 1 – Shattered Carmine

  • Area: Twisted Garden
  • Trap Type: Hydro
  • Cheese: Lunaria Camembert
  • Charm: Shattering Charm
  • Condition: Catching while the bonuses from pouring the Dewdrops are active will be more effective
  • Loot: 
    • Living Garden Theme Scrap 1
    • Shattered Chest
      • Rift Mist
      • Other sorts of goodies (could find torn pages from Plankrun’s journal)

Challenge 2 – Dark Magi

  • Area: Cursed City
  • Trap Type: Arcane
  • Cheese: Graveblossom Camembert
  • Charm: Shattering Charm
  • Condition: Must dispel all three curses
  • Loot:
    • Living Garden Theme Scrap 2
    • Dark Chest
      • Rift Stars
      • Other sorts of goodies (could find torn pages from Plankrun’s journal)

Challenge 3 – King Scarab

  • Area: Sand Crypts
  • Trap Type: Shadow
  • Cheese: Graveblossom Camembert
  • Charm: Shattering Charm
  • Condition: Max the meter (minimum of 50 grub salts)
  • Loot:
    • Living Garden Theme Scrap 3
    • Scarab Chest
      • Rift Crystal
      • Other sorts of goodies (could find torn pages from Plankrun’s journal)

Rewards of the Challenges

  • Collecting all the Theme Scraps (1, 2 & 3) and crafting them together will obtain a new Living Garden Theme for your profile.
  • Collect and open all three chests from each of the ultimate mice, will gain you all the materials needed to craft the Rift Base. Use the recipe below to craft the Rift Base:

Rift Base Blueprints* 1
Rift Mist 1
Rift Stars 1
Rift Crystal 1

*Rift Base Blueprints can be purchased from the general store for 7,500,000 golds.

This base has the most luck so far, it has good enough power bonus. However it’s a relatively less significant upgrade to previous powerful bases. I would recommend get the base if you have the spare gold else you may leave it later till the full Riftwalker Set is out.

Yes this isn’t the end of Living Garden areas, Riftwalker Set is still leave hanging to be discovered further in the near future. Evidence of this is revealed upon obtaining the Rift Base, as the description gave us hints of the existence of the Riftwalker Set.

Rift Base

Additional Informations

New Charms

  • Growth Charm
    • 1 Divine Orb
    • 1000 Charm Bits
    • 1 Dol Essence
  • Ultimate Power Charm
    • 1 Divine Orb
    • 1000 Charmbit
    • 1 Est Essence
  • Wild Growth Charm (Quantities Unknown)
    • 1 Epic Orb
    • 1000 Charmbits
    • 1 Est Essence
    • 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil
  • Ultimate Luck Charm (Quantities Unconfirmed)
    • 1000 Charm Bits
    • 1 Epic Orb
    • 1 Fel Essence

New Traps/Bases

  • Phantasmic Oasis Trap(Hydro)
    • 1 Phantasmic Oasis Trap Blueprint = Est + Fel + Icuri Essences
    • 1 Oasis Water Node Trap Parts
    • 3 Phantasmic Essence
  • Clockwork Portal(Shadow Trap)
    • 1 Clockwork Portal Trap Blueprints = 1 Icuri Essence + 1 Fel Essence
    • 1 Clock Parts
    • 8 Umbral Capacitors
  • Grand Arcanum Trap(Arcane)
    • 1 Grand Arcanum Trap Blueprints = 1 Gur + 1 Icuri Essences
    • 1 A.C.R.O.N.Y.M Parts
    • 1 Arcane Crystal
    • 40 Tiny Platinum Bars
  • Soiled Base
    • 1 Soiled Base Blueprints = 1 Fel Essence + 1 Gur Essence + 1 Hix Essence
    • 3 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil
    • 1 Lunaria Petal
    • 1 Duskshade petal
    • 1 Graveblossom Petal
    • 1 Dewthief Petal

Miscellaneous

  • Unstable Gourd
    • Recipe
      • 1 Est Essence
      • 1 Plant Pot
    • Give one or more of the following (Random amounts)
      • Onyx Gorgonzola
      • Dewthief Camembert
      • Moon Cheese
      • Graveblossom Camembert
      • Est Essence
      • Limelight Cheese
      • Rumble Cheese
      • Runic Cheese

Sources: Some information and contents are collected from MouseHunt forum and guides out there. Some images used here are snapshot by tehhowch.

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  1. rustyking
    November 15, 2012 at 2:06 AM

    Can i ask sth? If u manage to get to twisted garden and run out of cheese, u hv to catch another Carmine the Apothecary Mouse to go bk to the twisted garden?

    • November 15, 2012 at 3:39 AM

      From understanding yes you will have to recatch that mouse to reenter to the Twisted Garden, same goes to the Cursed City and Sand Crypt. More detail on those when confirmed.

  2. rustyking
    November 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Ok thnx alot:D

    • November 15, 2012 at 12:10 PM

      Rustyking I found out how to travel back to Twisted dimension if you either use the wrong cheese or out of cheese in Twist Garden or Cursed City or Sand Crypts. Check the IMPORTANT notes on the Twisted Dimension steps. Hope this clear up your questions.

  3. Random
    November 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Go complicated O.o

  4. November 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Just a note on the Sand Crypts portion. You have that you can collect Plumpear herbs in both the Cursed City and the Sand Crypts. I’m guessing it was an oversight.

    • November 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

      Where exactly are you referring to? Because I have sand dune was collecting Duskshade petals and sand crypts as collecting Lunaria Petals.

    • November 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM

      In The Middle of Step 5

      “•Advancement Goal
      ◦With all the Graveblossom Petals from Twisted Garden, again exchange it for Graveblossom Camembert cheese in the cheese shoppe.

      xxxxxx◦Use the Graveblossom Camembert in Cursed City to collect Plumpear Herbs and Sand Crypts to collect Plumpear Herbs to collect Lunaria Petals.xxxxx

      ◦Using the Pumpear Herbs and Lunaria Petals to exchange for Lunaira Camembert in Cheese Shoppe.”

      • November 15, 2012 at 9:11 PM

        Thanks I see where I made the mistake. Edited now.

  5. Robert Duxbury
    November 15, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    8:58 pm – Sand Dunes
    I received 10 Moon Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

  6. mike
    November 16, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    what does this means :Terrifying tracks warn of the King Grub!
    Weaken the King Grub with Grub Salt charms, and then use a Grub Scent charm to attract it when you’re ready!

    • November 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM

      It means you should first by using soft charm to weaken the King Grub, the HUD should show you a meter of the King Grub’s power right now, lower that meter. Then you arm the Grub Scent Charm to catch it.

  7. November 16, 2012 at 6:45 AM

    Wew….my account still works! hahaha XD

    anyway, i can’t get to this place :((

  8. November 16, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    In Step 4 you recommend having 20 each red and yellow sponge charms but the dewdrop buckets are full at 10 so I would think it should be 10 each.

  9. November 16, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    A note on unstable gourd. I crafted one and poked it and got my Est essence back.

  10. November 16, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Anyone knows if using normal cheese like Gouda works at step 2?

    • November 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM

      You can only use Gouda cheese at Living Garden, any other place will require a special cheese to attract mice.

      • November 17, 2012 at 11:31 AM

        another question, what happens if u hunt at lost city without lifting the curse, without searcher charm equipped?

  11. rustyking
    November 16, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Thnx Dex! Anyway on another note, i found the recipes for the traps and base…

    Soiled Base
    1x Soiled Base Blueprints
    3x Fresh Living Garden Soil
    1x Dewthief Petal
    1x Duskshade Petal
    1x Graveblossom Petal
    1x Lunaria Petal

    Phantasmic Oasis Trap
    1x Phantasmic Oasis Trap Blueprints
    1x Oasis Water Node Trap Parts
    3x Phantasmic Essence

    Clockwork Portal Trap
    1x Clockwork Portal Trap Blueprints
    1x Clock Parts
    8x Umbral Capacitors

    Grand Arcanum Trap
    1x Grand Arcanum Trap Blueprints
    1x A.C.R.O.N.Y.M. Parts
    1x Arcane Crystal
    40x Tiny Platinum Bars

    However, the recipes for the bp arent confirmed yet…

  12. rustyking
    November 16, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    BP for soilded base: 1 Fel + 1 Gur + 1 Hix Essence and link of base:
    https://www.mousehuntgame.com/item.php?item_type=soiled_base

  13. November 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    I’ve received 10 limelight cheese from an unstable gourd, and 5 rumble cheese from another.

  14. Yau Yin Hoe
    November 16, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    For statistics: 6 thirsty mice from 35 pours – mostly from trap checks – in living garden. Check my profile.

  15. Sherman Bok
    November 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM

    Just a query, from what I read, if I run out of cheese at the twisted gardens, I will be kicked out of it automatically, or do you mean I have no choice but to travel out? Cuz I’m thinking of hunting till I finish my cheese at twisted garden, before travelling to the cursed city or sand crypt. I’m worried I might get kicked out before these can happen. Thanks.

    • November 17, 2012 at 2:42 AM

      The meaning of running out of cheese is that if you are out of cheese and still try to hunt there with any other cheese you will be kicked back.

      • Sherman Bok
        November 17, 2012 at 2:50 AM

        I see.. Thank you so much for the clarification and quick reply!

  16. Sherman Bok
    November 17, 2012 at 2:52 AM

    One last question: Btw anyone knows if using yellow and red dewdrops in the twisted gardens will pass on if I’m using Lunaria Camembert to hunt for twisted Carmine? Is it recommended to do this or the results are insignificant? Thanks!

    • November 18, 2012 at 9:54 PM

      It’s better to not do the mini game if you are just looking for advancement. Mini games are mainly for collecting essences.

  17. rustyking
    November 17, 2012 at 4:41 AM

    So if u hv 0 duskshade, u wont be kicked out?

    • November 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM

      Dex D. Akio :

      The meaning of running out of cheese is that if you are out of cheese and still try to hunt there with any other cheese you will be kicked back.

  18. Marcus
    November 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM

    when you at Lost city/Cursed city, MUST use the charm to repel those curs?? if not, still can catch mouse at there??

    • November 17, 2012 at 1:41 PM

      You don’t have to lift the curse, the mini games are for collecting Essences.

  19. Chx
    November 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    nice guide there. Keep it up! 😀

  20. Maikel
    November 17, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    unstable gourd also gives runic (1 gourd = 5 runic here)
    10:30 am – Living Garden
    I received 5 Runic Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

  21. November 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    hey, how do we get the blueprints for the traps?

    • November 17, 2012 at 7:42 PM

      I think they would be same as soiled base where you craft it using a combination of essences I will research on it and let you all know.

  22. Javier Ferrer
    November 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    I just thought you should know that the Unstable Gourd can also give you the new Collectible (Zugs Leftover Rock)

  23. Sherman Bok
    November 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Hi, any idea if Lunaria will attract dehydrated mice with pour activated?

  24. Pumilio
    November 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    More info on gourds: 10:36 am – Lost City
    I received 5 Rumble Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

  25. Eileen
    November 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Love this walk through!!!
    one thing tho, it’s Dreamfluff Herbs and not Dewfluff Herbs
    Step 2/Sand Dunes/Advance Goals.

  26. Mike
    November 18, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    Ok, so why did you suggest the COT for the Sand Dunes and not the Reaper’s Perch? Am i missing something?

    • November 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

      Apparently I skipped Reaper’s Perch myself haha, Due to crystal library assignment takes way too long. Yes Reaper’s Perch would be better here, but I would recommend skip since we have the upgrade version of COT. COT seems to be good enough here.

  27. Ryan
    November 18, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    very well written! a question, how many duskshade camembert to bring into step 4 is approriate to get e living chest?

    • November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

      I brought in about 100, and gotten 100 ish Graveblossom Petal. So I would say 50-100 would be appropriate.

  28. Secret
    November 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    Clockwork Portal Trap has been crafted 🙂
    BP needs 1 I and 1 F essence 🙂

    3900 Power, 12% Bonus, 20 Luck, 10% Attn

  29. November 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    Great work guys. Maybe we can work together on a Walkthrough sometime. I live in Asia too.

    • November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

      Thanks! Yeah that would be a great idea.

  30. Secret
    November 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    10:31 am – Living Garden
    I received 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil, 1 Fel Essence, 1 Gur Essence and 1 Lunaria Camembert from 1 Living Chest.

    10:25 am – Living Garden
    I received 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil, 1 Gur Essence, 6 Dewthief Camembert and 8 Duskshade Camembert from 1 Living Chest.

  31. November 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    8:27 pm – Living Garden
    I received 15 Graveblossom Petals, 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil, 1 Fel Essence, 1 Gur Essence and 17 Dewthief Petals from 1 Living Chest.

    8:27 pm – Living Garden
    I received 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil and 1 Gur Essence from 1 Living Chest.

  32. November 19, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    11:13 am – Living Garden
    I received 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil, 1 Gur Essence, 12 Dewthief Petals and 10 Duskshade Petals from 1 Living Chest.

  33. November 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM

    “dimension” is spelled wrong. you’ve written it as “dimenstion”

  34. November 20, 2012 at 7:45 AM

    For the Wild Growth Charm it’s :
    ~ 1x Epic Orb
    ~ 1000x Charmbit
    ~ 1x Est Essence
    ~ 1x Fresh Twisted Garden Soil

  35. November 20, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    1:49 pm – Sand Dunes
    I received 5 Rumble Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

  36. tze
    November 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    9:22 pm – Lost City
    I received 7 Combat Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

  37. November 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    You will need at least 38 successful hunts with salt charms to move the king grub meter down into the green. That is where I am at right at this moment.

    It took roughly 80 graveblossom cheese to do so

  38. November 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    10:25 am – Sand Dunes
    Whoa, the King Grub mouse nearly wrecked my trap! He definitely dislodged all the salt and left his ah… distinct smell about the place! I’ll need to re-salt and scent my trap before attracting another one.

    I should unequip my Grub Scent Charms and save them for later.

    10:25 am – Sand Dunes
    I sounded the Hunter’s Horn and was successful in the hunt! I caught a 6 oz. King Grub Mouse worth 35,000 points and 8,500 gold.

    The mouse also dropped the following loot:
    2 Lunaria Petals and 1 Dol Essence

  39. November 21, 2012 at 1:31 AM

    9:30 pm – Living Garden
    I received 1 Fresh Twisted Garden Soil, 1 Fel Essence, 1 Gur Essence and 16 Dewthief Petals from 1 Living Chest.

    9:30 pm – Twisted Garden
    I sounded the Hunter’s Horn and was successful in the hunt! I caught a 12 oz. Twisted Carmine worth 85,250 points and 6,525 gold.

    The mouse also dropped the following loot:
    1 Living Chest

  40. November 21, 2012 at 4:45 AM

    Phantasmic Oasis has been crafted…..E+F+I for the blueprint
    power 5850 bonus 15% attraction 20% luck 26 cheese effect none.

  41. November 21, 2012 at 4:53 AM

    I get a feeling that you wont be able to get a second twisted carmine in the same run. The first one seems to be easy to get but not the second. You need to travel to another location and return to get the second one. I got my second one this way.

    • Dennis
      November 21, 2012 at 9:40 AM

      I got 2 twisted carmines in consecutive hunts in the same run

    • November 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      In three hunts, I had gotten 2 carmines.

      • November 21, 2012 at 7:23 PM

        OK, it means that it follows normal hunting pattern, good.

      • November 22, 2012 at 4:05 AM

        I missed 2 twisted carmines in 5 cheese and caught none, what luck? now i need to restart everything over again.

      • November 22, 2012 at 6:06 AM

        I missed on first hunt as well lol

  42. Chokie
    November 22, 2012 at 7:41 AM

    I just traveled to Lost City and i want to ask something..
    If we caught cursed mouse while curse is lifted, the city will return to cursed again right?
    When curse is lifted, we can see cursed mouse on “effectiveness” right? or maybe not?
    Coz, before curse lifted, i already caught cursed mouse on trap check and then i caught ethereal mice using searcher charm.
    But, when i check “effectiveness” while curse is lifted, cursed mouse isnt there! So, i think i cant attract em.
    Is it glitch?

    Sorry for bad english 😦

  43. rustyking
    November 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    My friend jus crafted Phantasmic Oasis
    Power: 5850 Power: 15% Luck: 26 Attrection: 20% Cheese Effect: No Effect
    Blueprints: Est+Fel+Icuri
    This is according to him

  44. rustyking
    November 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Also i got 20 gouda fr unstable gourd

  45. November 22, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Someone just crafted the Grand Arcanum Trap. I have the stats and pics here on this guide. http://mousehuntgameguide.com/the-living-garden-walkthrough/
    Once again, great work on yours.

  46. November 22, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    G&I for Grand Arcanum blueprint
    power 4800 bonus 12% luck 22 attraction 5% cheese effect none.

  47. November 23, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    That means there are rooms for other powerful trap upgrades in the future…such as combinations of GHI, FGI, FHI, HI…

  48. November 23, 2012 at 12:46 AM

    Step 4 Twisted Garden
    Dewdrops provide a 5% power bonus and/or +5 luck depending on the use of red/yellow or combined.

  49. November 26, 2012 at 6:53 AM

    6:50 pm – Living Garden
    I received 7 Glutter Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

    6:50 pm – Living Garden
    I received 20 Gouda Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

    6:47 pm – Living Garden
    I received 9 Onyx Gorgonzola from 1 Unstable Gourd.

    6:47 pm – Living Garden
    I received 20 Gouda Cheese from 1 Unstable Gourd.

    Don’t waste Essence for unstable Gourd.

  50. Eileen
    November 27, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    In the recipes, the Grand Arcanum Trap(Arcane) is missing the Arcane Crystal.

    • November 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM

      Fixed, thanks for the correction.

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